Hi all,

Im posting my program here to log my program and get some insights.

I am 38, with child previously breastfed.

Left with saggy boobs.

I am on MMS soy and flaxseed program now. Have not had any tingles or seen any improvements except that my pee smells good.. like matcha tea haha

I added USP progesterone cream, didnt see any changes to permanent size except for boobs rounding.

I have now added BO to my program.

Tincture : 15 drops AM, 10 drops mid day, 15 drops night.

I take protein shakes 2 scoops daily.

I pump almost daily for 1hr with heat and massage before pumping.

With the BO Im getting stabbing pains in right boobs on and off. Could be a good sign.

I have a stash of ibutamoren. Im contemplating whether to add this in now or wait for a few cycles.

My measurements:

Saggy 34.5~34.8 inch (fluctuating) CD7

Under boobs 27inch

I hope to grow to a full round 37inches. But I would be happy with a 36.6inches too.

I’m trying to avoid herb pills as much as possible as I’m only 18 and a half so don’t want to mess up my hormones as I may potentially still be growing (one can dream " alt="" title=""> ).  I started my period when I was 11, and honestly think my boobs stopped growing at 13. 

I’m a 32A at a stretch, right breast leaves gaps in 32A bras, left breast fills it. I am 5”7 and about 124 pounds so I’ve got quite a slim figure in that I have slim legs (but quite muscly thighs but I play rugby so that’s probably why), a toned stomach, but my arms and upper body area are literally like a stick. I have an alright ass for my size but then it just looks a bit stupid with my lack of boobs. 

I went to VS about a year ago and the lady said I was a 30B but I think she just said that to make me feel more confident and to buy something, but I always wear the tightest setting on my 32 band bras with ease but bra sizing confuses me as one 32A bra fits fine but another just has gaps (tend to be the underwired one as my breasts are fuller at the bottom then at the top). 

Lol sorry I literally am just telling you all about me. I’m on the combined BC pill right now but didn’t notice any increase in breast growth when I started going on it. But for that reason I don’t intend to cycle anything as I don’t have an ‘actual cycle’. 

I ordered BreastActives but thank god I found this site as am now sending them back unopened as I’m not going to waste money on something that’s purely a scam. I find it disgusting how people actually take money to write fake reviews, like you’re literally playing on someone’s insecurity to make money out of it " alt="" title="">

Anyway rant over! I guess I’m here just to seek out advice from you guys as you all know how it feels to not be satisfied with your breasts.
>So I’m going to start a program after spending hours looking over this site- maybe if I see any growth I may post pics but not right now as they’re so small hehe. My absolute dream would be a full 32B just so when I stand in the mirror it actually looks like I have something there. Especially when I eat a shit ton of food and my tummy sticks out more than my boobs that is depressing... " alt="" title="">

I need to shut up now, here’s my proposed program!

Morning:

• Vitamin C and Vitamin D tablets (take these anyway).

• Fat glass of soy milk

• 25g of flaxseeds

• 15 minute massage with flaxseed oil- wasn’t too keen on fenugreek as I’ve read it can cause weight gain in other places and I can't afford that if it doesn't go to my boobs " alt="" title="">

Evening:

• 15 minute massage with flaxseed oil

• 30 minutes of listening to binaural beats.

Any advice would be really appreciated as I think you’re all amazing for sharing your programs and supporting each other through what can be slow progress. In particular if you guys have any specific massage techniques and binaural beats that you love!!! I’ve tried clicking links on here to videos but I think because the posts are from around 2013 the links no longer exist.. " alt="" title="">

Hope everyone’s doing okay in lockdown it’s such a strange time " alt="" title="">

Hi~

I've been lurking for a while and researching to come up with a program for myself. I decided to start a thread to record and share my progress as well as seek advice along the way. I'm not an expert by any means and still have a lot to learn, but I hope whoever stumbles on this thread will find the information helpful. Here is the program I've created, it's inspired by a combination of a few members' programs.

10 AM (on an empty stomach)

- (follicular) 100 mg PM

- (luteal) 1/4 tsp PC

- 3,000 mg collagen

- 1,000 mg vitamin C

- 500 mg GABA

- 5,000 mg placenta

2 PM (with meal)

- 1,400 mg fish oil

- 500 mg calcium

- 1,500 mg MSM

6 PM (with meal)

- (luteal) vitamin E

- 500 mg calcium

- 1,500 mg MSM

- 100 mg HA

- 5,000 mg placenta

10 PM (with meal)

- (luteal) 1/4 tsp PC

- 3,000 mg collagen

- 1,000 mg vitamin C

- 500 mg GABA

- 5,000 mg placenta

Notes:

- The dosages are according to the bottles' instructions

- I will tweak the program as need and update it here

- I take bbt at 6 AM and massage around 15 minutes twice a day

Members' programs I looked at:

1. surferjoe2007 Comprehensive NBE program

2. Ginie PM program

3. yekaterina Mayusakimilk

4. msnewboobies Chiyomilk alternative

5. Chiyomilk (from GetCurvyNow.com)

Hey, everyone!

I'll introduce myself, I’m 21 years old, I am from Brazil and I really want to increase my boobs, I’m not sure about their size because here we have a different way to count it. but they are really small.

I’ve bought PM from biovea and I’ve been taking it twice a day, for 32 days but it have messed up my period, and also a couple days ago I found this forum! So, if you could help me sending me some threads or saying about yours, whats do you recomend!!!

Thank you so much

So I've decided to post my program even if I'm still experimenting so I can keep track of things.

Morning: 15 min Female Deer massage, MSM 1000 g

Lunch: 500 g Fenugreek, 15 g flaxseed

Around 3 PM: BCP, MSM 1000 g

Night: 500 g Fenugreek, 15 g flaxseed, 15 min Female Deer massage

Also when I shower I do 300 rotations of chi with flaxseed oil and during the day I drink 2 or 3 cups of fennel or spermint tea.

I've started massaging a month and a half ago and after two weeks I've started with the flaxseed, MSM and fennel tea, ten days ago I started taking Fenugreek. I've grwon a little less than an inch since the start.

Some important things I'd like to specify: my bcp is a progestin only pill, it blocks ovulation in most women (me included) so I haven't had a period for several months and was very happy about it. The way it prevents ovulation is by controlling LH levels and by keeping all of the other hormones at relatively low levels I believe so that the follicle does not mature and ruptures, I see it as always being in follicular phase.

Some of the things I am taking DO interfere with my birth control. I think it is fenugreek because the day after I started taking it I felt pain in my ovary exaclty like when I ovulate so I knew I was ovulating, I got my period around a week after that. I'm not sure if it is fenugreek becasue I don't know if taking it for one day could affect your hormones that much but the other things I was taking were very low doses (flaxseed and fennel tea and not even very consistently), but I'm curious what you guys think. I also know that Fenugreek can affect the absorpion of things because it creates a sort of barrier around the digestive system, it might be that I took the pill too close to when I took the fenugreek and that was what affected its effectivness. I'm now making sure I take it at least three hours after and before I take the Fenugreek.

For now I'm going to use other contraceptive methods and then stop Fenugreek once I run out of it just so I don't waste the money I spent on it, I really don't want my painful periods back even though I undersand having a period might be important for NBE.

I had gotten growth even without the Fenugreek which I think is mostly due to massages so I don't mind stopping and sticking with the other things at lower dosages. I will see how it goes and if I'm going to get my period in the upcoming months.

Flaxseed and Fennel also fixed the dryiness I had been experiencing for several years which makes me believe I had low estrogen levels to begin with.

I originally started taking MSM for my hair not for NBE but I've included it because a lot of people use it for this purpose.

I will be stopping Fenugreek at the end of July and only take flaxseed, MSM, fennel and spearmint tea as well as doing massages daily.

Starting measurements:

Underbust: 72 cm

Bust: 82 cm (barely)

Now:

Underbust: 72 cm

Bust: 84 cm

Hello everyone! I'm a lurker on this wonderful forum for a while now and you all have helped me so much with your experience and knowledge! In the past five months I've increased from a large C cup to a fitting F cup, and I'm still experiencing growing pains so I'd like to think there is more to come. I will share my journey and document future progress in this thread.

About me: 23 yo/ 5'7/ 120lb/ Asian&European/ biological female. I'm moderately active (though not so much in quarantine), and have a slim build. My upper body looks slightly smaller in proportion to my lower body. I don't seem to experience estrogen dominance before I started NBE, but I suspect that my androgen levels are high (oily skin, hair loss, anxiety, etc.)

Measurements:

February: underbust 69, bust 83

April: underbust 71, bust 87

July: underbust 70, bust 91

I've also gained a bit of weight, probably 4-5lb

First program: PM only

I reacted to PM after a few days and grew about 1.5 cm (could be temporary swelling), but it did have an effect on me. My breasts were tingly and heavy. It stopped working after 2 weeks, and even caused shrinking.

Second program: PM, PC, fish oil, MSM, VitC, white peony

This program was pretty successful. I got some spotting symptoms while only on PM, so I thought the P:C ratio was wrong and incorporated PC. It worked wonders for me, and my breasts were so painful for an entire month I couldn't even touch them. The routine for this program is pretty simple:

• PM 250mg, twice daily
• fish oil 1g, twice daily
• PC before bed
• MSM 1.5g, twice daily
• VitC 1g, after waking up

Here's a general summary of my journey so far. I will later post more about why I decided to add/take out some ingredients, and stuff I noticed/theories I had while experimenting with all the supplements. Please let me know what you think! Happy growth everyone " alt="" title="">

Hello all! 

I have been a lurk for 1 or 2 years. I kind of tried every method that worked for some members, without listening to my own body. I've bought noogleberry (with no airlock) and pumped them so hard, that my breast were only red and hurting.

I took PM and my boobs started to SHRINK. And I would've worn the worst push up bras, that will leave marks on your boobage when you take them off at night. 

After two years giving up my journey to a larger Breast, I noticed I should listen to my OWN body and do a program that my body wants or needs. I know it took me a long time to realise it, but I have to work WITH my body and not against it. I like my boobs now but I still would feel nice to have a little more clevage.   I was anorexic in my teenage years, so I guess my body couldn't go through puberty properly, since it was laking nutrients and fats that it NEEDED to grow. (sorry for writing in caps sometimes, but it's really important haha)

I am now: 30B/C.

my goal is: 30E (but I give my the body the time it needs to get there)

My current realistic Programm is now (since I never stuck to a complicated programm for too long. I don't have time to noggle for 5 hours a day.)

Noogling whenever I have time. Mostly 4-5 days per week for 45-60 minutes. Using the 7/2 vacuum method. The swelling afterwards looks healthy and normal. no hurting, no reddness. I use the Airlock system, since it always frustrated me when the vacuum came undone at the normal noogleberry system. my boobs wouldn't hold on to the cups. So why suffer? the Airlock system works perfectly fine when I oil or use cream on my breast. (progesterone cream)

3x a week I use Swanson BO. Since I am androgen and through this also estrogen dominant (since too much androgen will be formed into estrogen in the body. That's why my boobs shrunk when I used PM because I didn't need more estrogen)

Now I also heard that massaging your breast is really important. And having enough fat in your body for hormonal production.

I used PM Oil at frist, but due to the shrinkage I stopped it. Now maybe I will use coconut oil? or jojoba oil since it can be absorbed good by the skin. I follow chiyomilks fat brushing technique. But I start to brush the fat up from my thighs, since I have more fat stored there.

I will start adding Fishoil to my diet, since I need the extra portion of fat (and omega-3 fatty acid)

I  attached a picture of my breast now and the ones from my profile pic would be my goal haha!

Good Luck to everyone being on their NBE journey! Sending lots of love to all of you out there 

• Pumping: So right now I do about 10-15 minutes of heat. Then I put some cocoa butter on and pump and release 10:2 for 30 minutes. Immediately afterwards I pump and hold for 3 hours. Then I do 10-15 minutes of heat again. I don't massage anymore because I truly just don't respond at all to it and I get better swelling with my heat and then pump/release warm up then when I also had the massage as part of it. So it basically comes out to 1 hour pump and release and 6 hours of pump and hold a day= 7 hours of pumping. I do not do much suction at all. My breast turns purple/cuts off circulation way before a lot of the gauge numbers people have discussed on here, so I finally gave up on the idea that I could get to those gauge numbers, which is part of the reason I have decided to go for longer durations instead. I am getting good swelling with this program which makes me feel optimistic considering I have never noticed any changes to this breast from anything. My areola has been slightly bigger for the last few days which makes me feel optimistic that maybe I have a little bit of real growth underneath if my areola has gotten a bit bigger. Considering my breast is completely underdeveloped and barely even had an areola this is a good thing. My larger breast has a pretty large areola, so I want both the areola and breasts to be even. I am pumping every day. This might feel excessive to some, but I can only do a low pressure and there aren't any marks or anything on my breast, so it seems to be going fine for me. I actually didn't even notice the areola changes until the last week when I doubled my hours to what it is now. The pump/release warm up and then doing pump and hold seems to give me the most swelling then doing just pump/release or just pump/hold. I actually didn't really notice anything too promising when doing either of those separately. I'm not taping my nipples right now as I break out in a rash whenever I tape them. 
  
• Supplements: I'm not really taking any herbs right now. My underdeveloped breast is completely unresponsive to them, so I want to "wake up" the small breast by focusing all of my effort on it for right now w/ my pumping program. I feel like if I take herbs it will just increase the asymmetricalness with my larger breast getting even larger and my smaller breast not responding at all. So for now I am just taking Red Reishi (my chin is completely broken out so I think I have high androgens), Vitamin C, and collagen.
  
• Other note: This isn't part of my plan but it's worth noting that I've had a progesterone IUD for the last three years. 
  

• I ordered an aquarium valve and when it arrives I'm going to try to see if I can get it to do an airlock so that I can move around more while pumping and also not having to carry the pump every time I get up to use the bathroom or get a drink of water or something. I might also try to add one of those nursing bra things if it works. I'm contemplating doing up to 12 hours of pump/hold if I can get it to work and to also make pumping less annoying so that it's somewhat similar to Brava. If it doesn't work though I will likely just stick to what I'm doing. 
  
• I am also considering doing a BO program in the more distant future if/when my breasts are symmetrical and both a full B. I've always felt like I'd be a good candidate for it. I would have to increase my temperature a bit, so I'd probably try Kelp and L-Tyrosine first to see if it got my temperature up. That would be in the distant future though because I'm not touching anything like that unless/until I get my breasts even or almost even.
  
• I've also considered Maca for the distant future because I'd like to start weightlifting so I think it would go well with that, but it won't give me breasts as I've been on it before but it did give me more energy and I heard it's good for building muscle. Considering the world is in the middle of a global pandemic though I'm not going anywhere near a gym anytime soon, so that's why that's one of those distant future things because I'm not planning on starting weightlifting anytime soon by going to a gym and I don't have the space in my apartment to buy weights. 
  
• Other notes: That is pretty much it. Other ones I tried in the backstory don't work for me and I won't ever touch PM because even low dose estrogen based birth control turned me into a hot mess. I've thought of topicals, but I don't really see any that look promising and worth the money but if I hear of any maybe that will change. 
  

Explanation:

For those who don’t know, Brava was a medical device that could be used either to expand the breast tissue for fat grafting, or to grow breast tissue directly. As far as I know, the Brava Breast Enlargment System is no longer in production. It consisted of two domes with thick, squishy, adhesive silicone padding, and a “Smartbox” pump that senses the pressure inside the domes and automatically maintains low even pressure over long periods of time. Brava advertised about 1 cup size increase every 10 weeks and they recommended that users wear the system for 10-12 hours per day. I saw one of Brava’s own studies where the participants grew at about half the advertised rate, so I’m not sure what to believe. Either way, Brava theoretically should have been able to provide 3-5 cups growth in a year, but most people used the system for a much shorter amount of time.

I recently bought a real Brava Smartbox off Ebay for around $200. That may sound like a lot for a pump, but I haven’t found a decent substitute for the Smartbox other than some much more expensive “negative pressure wound therapy” pumps. The earliest version of the Brava System used a wound therapy pump made by Carilex. Years ago I tried sleep pumping with a regular hand pump, but if I used high pressure I’d wake up in a lot of pain after 2-3 hours, and if I used low pressure they’d fall off in an hour two. The Smartbox is great for maintaining  gentle low pressure without having to worry that the cups will fall off while I’m sleeping.

What I’m using:

1. A real Brava smartbox

2. Small contoured cups (any contoured cups will work, but they must be the correct size or they won’t maintain a seal at low pressure)

3. 2 layers of King Frost camper tape applied on the cup rims as padding.

4. A breastmilk pump (but a cheap hand pump would work just as well)

5. Lots of oil

My Program:

Step 1: I start by using a ton of oil. It’s absolutely necessary or the pump isn’t able to pull in enough of my breast tissue to create a seal. I also position the contoured cups so that the most concave part of the rim is lined up with my armpit. That makes them much more comfortable. I have to start off my session with somewhat high, but not painful, pressure to pull as much of my breast into the domes as possible or the cups won’t stay sealed when I switch to a lower pressure. I do this for less than 5 minutes. I choose to use a breastmilk pump for this step, but I could use a hand pump if I wanted too. The big advantage of the breastmilk pump is that it let’s me have both hands free to reposition and hold on to the domes while they fill up. Once I’ve pulled in enough breast tissue, I release the vacuum and very quickly switch to the smartbox. If I take too long to grab the smartbox the domes start to fall off and I have to start over from the beginning. As long as the smartbox is close enough to grab without shifting my upper body around too much, I can easily grab the smartbox before any of my breast tissue starts to escape from the cup.

Step 2: I just leave the smartbox running all night and the cups stay on and stay comfortable all night. I wore them for 11 hours last night with no issues.

The combination of the contoured cups, campers tape padding, and the smartbox is what makes sleep pumping possible for me. I really do think you need all three to make this method work. I tried sleep pumping years ago with just a hand pump and regular domes and the longest time I kept them on was 4 hours and it was really hard on my skin and armpit nerves. Most nights I didn’t even make it past 2 hours, so I gave up on the idea. So far, this new method seems much easier and more comfortable.

Stats:

Weight: 131

Underbust: 30”

Bust: 31.5”

Bra Size 34AA

So after a semi successful routine with BO that ceased working for me (and some extra pounds later yay...) i decided to go the herbal route!

After reading some more about it i feel i'm prepared to start.

So here's what i’ll be taking and other details, the ones highlighted in blue are more important, the ones that arent, arent such a big deal or even that necessary i just want to empty some bottles i have sitting around

Herbs/supplements:

Pueraria Mirifica 250-750mg

Panax Ginseng

MSM 3000mg

HMB 2000mg

Melatonin 5mg

Multi + Vit D, Magnesium and fish oil

Citrus fruit(grape fruit)

GABA 1500mg

Collagen 1000mg

White Peony 1200mg

Red Reishi 800mg

Forskolin 200mg

Fenugreek 500mg

Hops 620mg

Green tea extract

EPO oil supplement

Progesterone Cream(Argueablyblue, not 1% sure)

(Yes i am aware i’m extra af, but i want bouncy big boobs dammit)

Non-supplemental additions:

Intermittent fasting (14-20hrs daily)

HIIT when i bother

Weightlifting when i bother

So a little story, i tried to take PM in the latter half of my cycle(Day 12-29) and it gave me acne, no tingles whatsoever except intense ones for 2 days when i was supposed to get my period (day 29) which was also late, 3 whole days infact. Sooooo... I'm gonna take it from day 1-15ish instead! Its also not gonna be possible for me to measure for a long time due to unforeseen circumstances but i will in the future! I do have old measurements up on here already so when the time comes i'll compare to those.

PROGRAM

Day 1-15:

10 in the morning: WP 600mg, RR 400mg, Forskolin 100mg

2 in the day: RR 400mg, WP 600mg OR Forskolin 100mg

Drink Grapefruit Juice somewhere in the evening close to bedtime

PC every 3-5 days

Bedtime: GABA, Collagen, Fenugreek, Ginseng, MSM, HMB, Melatonin, Multi+D, Magnesium, Fishoil, Hops, Forskolin 100mg OR WP 600mg, Green tea extract, EPO oil and lastly PM (250mg on days 1-6, 500mg on days 6-10 and 750 days 10-15)

Day 15-29(or whenever cycle ends, usually 29)

Repeat above but omit PM, Increase usage of PC to every 3 days

Very long time lurker here! Having unsuccessfully tried NBE numerous times in the past I didn’t expect to find myself back on this journey (or on this forum), but life (and lockdown) work in mysterious ways.

Working like crazy and lacking things to occupy me, last month or so I went a bit gung ho and decided to (as the title suggests) throw everything but the kitchen sink at my boobs just to see what would happen.

This was not a properly planned out programme, so please take the following with a pinch of salt (and seek out the advice of the much wiser NBE goddesses on the forum instead), but here’s what I took:

15 drops 3x a day:

Natures Answer Dong Quai Alcohol Free Fluid Extract 30ml 1-2ml (28-56 drops)

Baldwins Fennel (seed) ( Foeniculum Vulgare ) Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:3

Baldwins Fenugreek ( Trigonella Foenum-graecum ) Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:3

Baldwins Wild Yam ( Dioscorea Villosa ) Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:3

Baldwins Red Clover Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:5

Baldwins Holy Thistle ( Carduus Benedictus ) Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:4**

Baldwins Hops ( Humulus Lupulus ) Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:5

Baldwins Saw Palmetto ( Serenoa Repens ) Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:3

3 tablets a day:

Solgar PM Phytogen 60's (80 mg of Thai Kudzu extract (Pueraria mirifica)

1 tablet a day:

Solgar Ashwaganda 60's (Standardised Ashwagandha Root Powdered Extract 300 mg)*

Solar Balance Rhodiola Complex 60s (equivalent of 250 mg of Rhodiola root if taken 3x a day)*

Holland & Barrett MSM 120 Caplets 750mg***

*taking for stress but I have since learned that these promote progesterone so win-win

**I have since decided to swap out the Holy Thistle with Baldwins Dandelion Root ( Taraxacum Officinale ) Herbal Tincture 50ml 1:3 after reading that Holy Thistle can promote testosterone
***just started incorporating this

Having previously been a member of the IIIBTC and having worn kids 34AAs for the vast majority of my life, I was actually pleased when a significant weight gain (and subsequent loss) a couple of years ago left me with slightly more than a literal ironing board for a chest. 

Nevertheless I remained the not so proud owner of some 34” boobs until a month and a bit into this “programme” where by some stroke of miracle my boobs grew to 35.5”!

I have quite a wide torso, measuring around 31” in the underbust (despite being petite), so whilst I definitely don’t have a burgeoning bosom, I have wound up with a bit of something something.

Hoho!

I have also gained a little bit of belly in the process but I can’t say that that isn’t thanks to my new WFH sedentary lifestyle (and additional chocolate digestive problem). Honestly though, if I can grow a “normal” pair of boobs for the first time in my life I’ll happily take that for the time being and worry about it later.

I have just ordered some more of the above so let’s give it another few weeks and see if its just a fluke or if the boobs are coming to town.

P.S. named myself after the gorgeous French models on the Rouje website who all possess what I can only describe as an “ample bosom” and who I unashamedly desire to be.

Hi there!

Hope this can help you all, 32AA with a lot of unsuccesful program, I tried Pm and Bo and nothing happened.

I had 3 bottles of BO, I use nipple cream on my breast

2 pills 2 times every day mixed with aloe Vera gel (100 pure aloe Vera) and damn it works!

I take also 4g of MSM with C vit.

Right now i’m a small B cup and want to try chiyomilk program.

Hi ALL

So i take PM pills like 1 year now,  like the progress so far, but its not about Growing Female Breast, more like something else, let me explain.

Ok so, it was start like 3 year ago, i was look my left breast and was looks like a female Breast, and was turn me on, to think i'm a female, so i try CD, was like it, but i was feel i'm not full about this, and 1 day, i was watch this 2 video:

1st

2nd

And find out what i want,  i want to turn on my Milk Production on my breast.
What pills i need? i take 2 PM +1 FenuGreek pills a day, nothing else, my Breast right now 80B EU Size.
1 more thing, i know i need Domperidon + Motilium pills if i go to Endocrinologist
i can ask to make a recipes, but i'm to shy to go to DR to ask this, what altenative way have to turn on milk production?

Hi all! I have plans to start a new program but I'm questioning the efficacy because I'm not including P.M. or B.O. (I experienced negative side effects on both) here's my plan so far:

For starters, I have a hormonal IUD, and I'm taking Spironolactone for hormonal acne and unwanted hair growth.

Morning

-Collagen + Vitamin C

-15 mg soy isolate protein shake (protein powder+whole lactose-free milk)

-690mg Omega-3 Fish Oil

-2000mg MSM

-8oz Spearmint tea

I take 50mg Spironolactone around 11am. I work a standard shift 9-5 and then workout when I come home

After workout:

-Another 15mg protein shake

-8oz spearmint tea

Before bed:

-30 to 45 minutes of massage with jojoba oil (once a week dermarolling beforehand)

Obviously I will need to try it for a few months to see. I used to just do spearmint tea + massage (before I got on Spiro) and while my breasts were more full and plump, they would deflate back to their original size once my period started. Anybody have any other advice?

I decided to keep a progress thread where I have all changes and updates in one place. I tried pretty much all methods so my posts are spread out on the forum.

My starting size was 34B. My main NBE method is BO, orally and as a nipple cream and pumping with the large kangzhu cups. I also massage but not as religiously as before. I’ve TRIED nbe since February 2020, but I consider my real start since may 2020 because that’s when I had my breast pump and knew enough about herbs to use them properly.

I’ve reached my short term goals:

1. My breast now touch the domes all way around when pumping. (Not the front tho, I don’t fill the domes completely yet) When I started they didn’t touch at all. After two months the underboob would press the against the domes and now the TOP TISSUE ALSO presses against the dome!! This is HUGE to me!

2. My boyfriend noticed my growth. He doesn’t know I’m doing NBE and since I started I’ve been waiting for him to notice without me pointing it out. I haven’t checked if I actually gone up a cup size but to hear him say “do you still fit your bras?!” was almost as good as that.

3. This wasn’t actually a goal, because I didn’t really know it would happen but I feels nice so I’ll include it - I can feel my side boob against my arm at times. They are no where near big enough to “get in the way” but it’s just a small thing I’ve never felt before and it daily remind me of my growth.

So I’m glad to say 7 months of NBE with about 250 hours of pumping has not let me down. I also started BO the 30th of October and this has really given me a growth spurt and also regulated my periods. I might already be a small C-cup but I want to grow a little bit more before I go to try out a new bra. It feels like such a big step, I don’t want to get disappointed. " alt="" title="">

So as the title states I very quickly grew my boobs and increased both my cup size AND my band size(cup volume)

I had been dipping my feet in nbe for many years on and off but got serious about 4 months ago and after much research, many product/program tweaks, eating more and strict consistency it all paid off! I will state I had already been on a 200mg Bio Identical estrogen pellet implanted once a year and 200mg Bio Progesterone twice a day for many many years which gave me decent growth but nothing like my program has!!

My first starter program consisted of:

Morning:
1x 1000mcg Vitamin B12

2x 1000IU Vitamin D

1x 200mg Bio Identical Progesterone capsule

Lunch:

3x 600mg Fennel Capsules(switching later to 1x 400mg Goats Rue once at lunch once at Night)

1x 300mg PM capsule

Massage
with Flaxseed oil 1 capsule per breast, cling wrap each breast and
leave on for 1 to 2 hours, wash off (Major swelling afterwards)
Massage with volufiline breast cream (Korean brand Viva Korea) to capitalize on swelling from Flaxseed oil

Late Evening:

1x 200mg Progesterone Capsule

3x 1000mg Flaxseed Oil capsules

Night:
3x
500mg Aguaje Capsules
1x 300mg Pueraria Mirifica Capsule
Massage with herbal infused oil before bed with fat brushing from sides of back to breasts and then from armpits over and up toward collarbone + 50 rotations per breast

This program gave me 2 inches of permanent growth at the bust within less than a month and a half plus a bigger firmer butt!!

I then felt like I was stalling alil so decided to change things up and after much back and forth in my head deciding whether to take the plunge with BO I decided to hell with it lets try it!!

I stopped that program and begun my now current program which consists of:

Morning: 1x 200mg Bio identical progesterone capsule

2x 1000IU Vitamin D capsules

1x 1000mcg Vitamin B12 tab

Lunch:

1x 430mg raw female BO/Uterine capsule

2x 1000mg Cinnamon Bark Capsules

1x 300mg PM capsule(later changed to/currently 500mg PM capsule)

Late Evening:

1x 200mg Bio identical progesterone capsule

3x 1000mg FSO capsules

Night:

2x 430mg raw female BO/Uterine capsules(these also contain pro nbe ingredients such as zinc for IGF-1, Vitamin A(fish liver oil), and Vitamin E)

1x 300mg PM capsule(later changed to/currently 500mg PM capsule)

Massage with my herbal infused oil, 50 rotations inward per breast, fat brushing from sides of back into breasts and then from armpits inward up toward collarbone

This program so far has given me alil over half an inch growth and Im still growing, the program gave me half an inch growth within only a week and half of being on it strictly

Herbal Infused oil ingredients:

.Lavender ESO

.Tea Tree ESO

.Cinnamon, Clove and Orange ESO blend

.4x 500mg Aguaje Capsules emptied

.4-5x 500mg PM Capsules emptied

.5x 600mg Fennel Capsules emptied

.4x 400mg Goats Rue Capsules emptied(recently added)

.2 full dropper vials of Watermelon Seed Oil

.Filled to brim with Sunflower Oil

Allow to sit on window seal for 2 - 3 weeks shaking thoroughly twice a day then use once infused

I am also waist training (have lost an inch on my waist so far with consistent use) and having fruit smoothies/smoothie bowls a few times a week with fruits such as banana, blueberries, mango, raspberries and peaches.

Bras are DEFINITELY more expensive the bigger your boobs get the bra store I went to was having a 60% off sale but any bras that carried my size werent on sale and I ended up having to buy 2 bras for $180aud but boy am I proud and in love with them!